The PreTrib is not Biblical

Bible Proof the church will be here for the end. Who is the Bible written for? Well it is obviously the Christians because that's who reads the Bible (and Catholics sometimes). My point here is that when we discuss who the book is written for, we obviously know it's the church. So why in the world did the church come to the conclusion that they would not be here for the end? Well it seems to me that they've cherry picked a few Bible verses and decided this was the golden ticket that got them out of here, before the times get tough. So let's talk about it: let's talk about the main number one verse that has been sold in the seminary schools. First Thessalonians 4:16-17 "The Lord himself will come down from heaven with a loud shout, with a voice of the archangel, with a trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first; after that we who are still alive and left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." So there you have it, the main verse they all cling too. But here's the thing the dead have risen, I've witnessed it; likewise many others have as well. And it says that later will be caught up together with them in the clouds. Here's the thing if a day is as 1,000 years with the Lord, that may mean that a little later could be I don't know 15, 20 years or so. I think the point I'm trying to make here is that to decide the whole context of the Bible meaning from a handful of manipulated verses was widely irresponsible. That's out of the way, so now I want to discuss the reasons why we should understand the truth clearly. When I say [we], I mean: We the church, the Christians, the Bible believers in the world. So there you have it, but have you yourself ever checked your Bible to find out how many verses were about us suffering until the end? You can use the internet or bible verse finder to do this If you believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, I’m pretty sure you haven’t searched it. First of all we need to go back to the theological know-how of how to discern the Bible; we do so using the Bible itself (Biblical Hermeneutics). Therefore if we're talking about The End we're going to obviously revert to The Book of Revelation. Considering this is the book that is known to bring in The End of Days or The Times of Trouble; likewise the unmentionable horrors of an Apocalypse. Therefore I submit my first evidence for the reasons why I believe we will be here in the end times. I present chapter 2 and 3 in the book of Revelation as evidence for the fact that we will be here. This is about the letters to the seven churches. In every letter to the church in the book of Revelation it specifically talks about enduring or overcoming until the end. These seven churches I believe represent the end days churches. I won’t add all the verses, but here are a couple from Rev. 2 & 3. Revelation 2:7 "Let he that has an ear let him here what the spirits say to the churches; to him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life" This is a theme in each letter to the churches. The theme is that if you can endure until the end your reward will be waiting for you. Therefore with the understanding that the Revelation is the book for the last days and has these letters specifically telling every church the same message; that they would have a reward if they could just endure through it all, their reward would be waiting. Why would Jesus have this together in this context right after he introduces himself in the beginning of Revelation? He was saying hey I am him, I am here, and going to do some really tough stuff; get ready. Revelation 2:10 "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer and I shall give you a crown of life." These messages continue but I'm going to move on into some of the other books in the Bible. Specifically I want to turn to Matthew 24 which everyone knew to be a message Jesus gave about when the end would be and how to discern it. The problem here is along the line someone came up with a problematic idea called Dispensationalism. The contexts of dispensationalism was ironically too rightly-divide the word of God. Unfortunately they failed. The truth is they wrongly divided the word and that is a heresy. God warns us about messing with his word in the book of Revelation 22. (Rev. 22:18) “If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in the book”. But none the less they did it anyways. Is there any wonder the condition America is in today? Likewise coming up with the conclusion that Mathew 24 was just for the Jews and that is inherently false. Truth is Mathew 24 is for the church. Who is the church? It is the ones who spread the gospel message. Those who spread the New Testament gospel message after Jesus left, were the apostles and they built the church. Okay so even Matthew 24 has information about the end of days in the context of a rapture. Here's how. John Darby came up with dispensationalism in the mid 19th century, well known today in Eschatology. Then it was latter used by other ministers like Tim Lahey and Hal Lindsey to pedal mis-information in the 60s and 70s. This became wildly popular through books and movies (The Left Behind series). To make a long story short by the spreading of this false information they in turn basically worked it into modern theology the heresies now taught in the seminaries. They peddled false fables, confusing what was truth. 2 Timothy 4:4-5 “And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.” ( the warning by Jesus) The seminaries are teaching the ministers of today, these fables and no one is paying attention. This is a huge problem. Not for nothing but Tim Lahey got immensely wealthy from his rendition of the rapture movies/books. We were warned in Matthew 24, that in the last days, false prophets would arise in the end time. I will specifically share this verse to show it’s happening today. Matthew 24:11-13 "Many false prophets shall arise, and deceive many. Because iniquity shall abound the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure until the end the same shall be saved" The irony of that verse is chilling. The fact that we're being told about the false prophets that we're going to come and deceive many; in the same sentence that we're told we will be here until the end, is ironic. There really are so many verses about the church suffering until the end, it's hard to count them all. I do want to share a few. Hebrews 3:6 "Christ as the son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and rejoicing of the hope firm until the end." There's a reason the end comes filled with tribulation but if we can make it through those days Jesus is going to be back. Hebrews 3:14 "But we are made part takers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end." Hebrews 6:11 "And we desire that everyone of do show diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end." Matthew 10:22 "And you shall be hated of all men from my name sake: but he that endures till the end she'll be saved." There’re so many more than these that I have written down but I wanted to be able to put across the point of how many there were. Not just that there are specific verses that specifically touch on this. First Thessalonians 3:3-4 "That no man shall be moved by these afflictions: four yourself to know that we are appointed there- unto. For verily when we were with you we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass and you know" Clearly the Bible is telling us that we ourselves are appointed for these times. Therefore it makes it very clear that those who came up with this pre-trib idea through dispensationalism were false prophets. So in case you question what is the church; it's like I said it is the Bible based, apostolic churches. I'm going to go one step further and say that specifically these are the churches that came out of the Great commission. How can I know that you may ask? Truth of the matter is we are talking about the end of days churches. That means the great commission would be done. The book of Revelation would be opened. And we would be in the final hours. And I'm sorry to say this but that's exactly where we stand right now. With all that said one more verse for the road. Second Thessalonians 1:4 "So that we ourselves glory in you the churches of God for your patience and faith and all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure". So there you have just a handful of the Bible verses with so many more I still have more than I haven't listed. I urge you to pursue verses about this subject yourself. The point of this conversation really is: how can there be 1,000 years with the Lord if there is no church here? According to the topic of pre-trib that came out of dispensationalism we were not appointed to tribulation, therefore everyone would be raptured out. This my friends is a fables. If the whole church is raptured out and all that's left behind is the unbelievers then why would Jesus come back to spend a thousand years on the earth? Do you really believe that Jesus is coming to earth for a thousand years if his Christian church isn't here? To be quite honest when you say it out loud it almost kind of infuriates. The whole idea of everything that we have to go through all these times of trouble, is specifically to be with Jesus. We are told we were made specifically to be on earth at this time. I believe the reformed church can withstand tribulation if it get ready! And let me tell you, if we allow those false prophets to trick everybody, you won't be ready for tribulation. You won't have your oil lamps filled and you will fall into horrible sin when the times come. People will do anything to protect and feed their families and if you're not ready in every way; you’re going to fall into ill repute. Interestingly enough the word does tell us we were not appointed to wrath. This is how important Mathew 24 is to the church. Because through all the descriptions we know what to watch for and therefore can put a plan in motion to protect our families. On that note have a plan for the end times. Number one: Be right with God in every way. After that prepare for the world to collapse as we know it. That may mean we lose electricity or we fall into World war III; I'm not sure. The point I'm trying to make is you need to be ready with food, water, seeds, and an escape plan to get out of cities and suburbs. This may sound insane because you're not hearing the churches tell you this, and that's because if they did tell you this they'd be afraid you'd stop tithing and put your money into prepping. Sorry if that sounds cynical, but even with the best intentions in the most churches consider their bottom line. Sorry the world has crept in. I recommend home based bible study churches, switching off, each other homes every week. And bibles studies on Wednesdays to help each other understand the word better. Jesus loves you